Carbon3D's CLIP patentability

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Re: Carbon3D's CLIP patentability

Postby James » Sun Oct 18, 2015 2:53 am

I prefer to know nothing about everything rather than everything about nothing. :)

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Re: Carbon3D's CLIP patentability

Postby eg123 » Sun Oct 18, 2015 10:15 am

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I will PM you.

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Re: Carbon3D's CLIP patentability

Postby eg123 » Sun Oct 18, 2015 4:16 pm

Thank you James for that "WWJD insight" What Would James Do.

I hope someone soon comes up with a solution to dealing with PDMS.
A solution that will have its cost, but not be extremely expensive that only few can afford to pay.

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Re: Carbon3D's CLIP patentability

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Re: Carbon3D's CLIP patentability

Postby eg123 » Sun Oct 18, 2015 8:05 pm

Thank You revygcam
You are absolutely on point.

With in the past year I sighn a NDA with something different than what I am working on right now and I can see now
what the purpose was for.

I beleive it is a treasure for me and many others who are working in the "Basement of the science building" to read what you
shared with us.

Thank You. Thank You, Thank You.

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Re: Carbon3D's CLIP patentability

Postby James » Mon Oct 19, 2015 9:16 am

Just keep in mind that if you're going to make a disclosure before filing do so in a robust way. What I mean by that is don't just go to some obscure forum to mention your invention and leave it at that. What if the owner of the forum or some moderator saw your disclosure and deleted it and then filed an application before you? In this case, you would have a very hard time trying to prove that you had made a disclosure on the forum prior to the application. Even on a huge site like YouTube who is to say some YouTube employee saw your invention disclosure and then deleted your video. See what I mean? So if you're going to make a disclosure before filing either a provisional or non-provisional patent application disclose your invention EVERYWHERE! That way it would be very unlikely that someone could delete your disclosure information and then file for the invention themselves.

In my case, I am extremely cautious about anything having to do with online. You would never catch me making any kind of disclosure whatsoever online. There is just too much hacking activity going on in the world these days. Even if I were to publish an invention at numerous online outlets, was to prevent some well-organized hacker group from getting in to each of those places and deleting the information? Yes I know it sounds absurd, and I could even publish my invention in other ways such as media outlets that have no relation to online, but I'm just the kind of person that likes to deal in absolutes and not have to worry about anything that I can think of that can go wrong . :lol:

Even filing has a small degree of risk since one would need to deal with third parties. Although, I don't take my paranoia that far. :D
I prefer to know nothing about everything rather than everything about nothing. :)

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Re: Carbon3D's CLIP patentability

Postby gizmo3dprinters » Mon Oct 19, 2015 10:53 pm

Not sure if it is relevant for you guys, but we went top-down and it seems to be working great, yes you need to fill the vat if you don't want to print on salt water, but you never need t replace any components.

When I was doing my research I learnt that you shouldn't show the specifics of your invention in public before patent pending, if you do, you could lose some rights. Easiest is to just not show anything to anybody until patent pending and don't give specifics to anybody until patent pending. This is why with all our videos we only show the parts being printed, we don't show what we do to achieve it. There is a step after patent pending that costs a bit more than patent pending and then you are protected internationally for another 18 months. When your 12 months + 18 months have expired I believe you then need to start paying in every country where you want the patent, every year, for a very long time. This is my understanding, could be wrong. More focused on the printers than the patent law, that is what the attorney is for :)

We paid alot more than $500, because multiple searches had to be done and alot of people where working on the patent pending. The $500 is probably the lowest without patent searches and just putting something together quickly. Like most things, you get what you paid for and if you believe your invention is worth a billion, like Carbon, get someone that will do a proper job.

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Re: Carbon3D's CLIP patentability

Postby DO3D » Fri Jan 08, 2016 8:32 am

Dear All,

great topic, great forum! I' d like to ask your opinion on a patenting issue regarding a 3D printing invention.

Brief introduction and background: started building a dlp printer in 2012 with very limited resources and manged to put together a decent machie over the past years. Since 2014 as a start up trying to establish a 3D printing business in the Central European region. Continuing printer developments we had an idea that we beleive has a good potential in keeping 3D technology moving forward.

We are in a patent pending stage and would love to hear feedbacks from experienced users, 3D enthusiast, people who really understand additive manufacturing and all related issues, basically guys like you here at this forum.

Application went into the local patent office in august last year, we still have 7 months to take it to PCT level but the patent attorney said that if we share any information without NDA during this period we will not be able to add anything (additional info, claims) to the PCT. As we are still in testing mode adding more experiment based knowledge into PCT is definitely an option we would like to keep. As you guys mentioned before NDA - no matter how well written it is - does not seem to offer enough protection.

We want to go public as soon as we can but then again not sure how to do this right.
Any opinion on the above mentioned would be highly appreciated!

Thanks,
Marton

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Re: Carbon3D's CLIP patentability

Postby James » Tue Feb 02, 2016 8:10 pm

Hi Marton welcome to the forum,

I was going through old posts and saw your post. I didn't see your comment until just now because hackers have turned off my email notifications on this forum. I would say that once your patent is obtained to go to 3D printing related blog sites and tell them about your new invention. Probably the most prestigious of these would be . Also, talk to the , they are very popular when it comes to all things technology related.

Any body else know of any good places or methods?
I prefer to know nothing about everything rather than everything about nothing. :)

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Re: Carbon3D's CLIP patentability

Postby DO3D » Mon Feb 22, 2016 12:12 pm

Hi James,

thanks for the warm welcome and the useful links!
Neither did i receive any notofication about your reply...
Anyways as soon as its is possible i will definitely let those and you guys know about the idea!
Might even inspire somebody and the basic concept could be taken further ;)

Cheers,
Marton


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